The problem is that this DPMS GII uses a … There’s something to say about the satisfying, low-pitched boom of a .308 in comparison to the snappy crack of the little ol’ .223/5.56. Well considering i don't work on guns that often, it may be more cost effective to send it to someone with the skills and tools. Damn. Reloaders are sure to appreciate this. DPMS G2 HUNTER 6.5 CREEDMOOR 4-SHOT MAGPUL MOE RIFLE STOCK MSRP: $1,599.00 $ 1,211.34. TTAG snagged this Compact Hunter model and put it through its paces. Federal Gold Medal 175 grain, too, turned in one-minute groups. . I will need to remove that. Full MSRP is $1,599 and they can be found at retail for a few bucks north of $1,200. Call dpms and see if the hunter carbon fiber handguard would fit [ARCHIVED THREAD] - DPMS GII Recon. No way it's coming off without barrel blocks, leather, large vice, and real tools. It was, however, cranked on with WAY more force than necessary. Anyone know what’s up with that? Compare. Call Nordic and they should sell you just the tube only. =). Handguard: carbon fiber free-float Another benefit of dual ejectors on an AR-10 is less case damage, as a typical, single ejector tends to leave a noticeable dent in the case head. Namely, the simple addition of a threaded muzzle would open up a world of possibilities, and given the size and chambering of the GII Compact Hunter I’d like provisions for adding forwards rails for night vision and/or a light. By which time the flash hider was nothing but scrap. Groups of about 2.3 MOA will get the job done within a couple hundred yards on deer, pigs, and the like. He lives outside of Austin, TX. Removing 2 piece quad rail on ar15 for new free float rail. It’s possible that, in a 20″ or longer barrel, the SD would actually tighten up appreciably. DaveManJack. Had to make 4 additional wooden barrel blocks and put large c clamps on them to get enough hold to break free the flash hider. This is a short video on how to Custom install a bipod on your DPMS Panther Arms Oracle. Leading the charge to a new, trimmer generation of .308-Win.-chambered rifles, these DPMS GII series rifles pack serious punch and are only marginally heavier and larger than standard ARs. BTW the 16" Hunter is somewhat lighter than the 20" Hunter, IIRC a little under 7lbs. This lightweight (6.9 pounds) .308 is barely larger than a typical 5.56 AR-15. The gas block and tube should be easy. Plus, WHUMP. This page will serve as the landing page for GII information as we compile it. I traded my G2 Recon barrel nut for someone with a G2 AP4 barrel nut. The rail and barrel nut came off easily enough but the flash hider was a bitch. It fires a 168 grain Nosler Bonded Performance soft point bullet. For those who hve replaced their factory Recon handguards, did you have to remove more than just the handguard? DPMS G2 HUNTER 6.5 CREEDMOOR 4-SHOT MAGPUL MOE RIFLE STOCK MSRP: $1,599.00 $ 1,211.34. Out of stock Compare. An enlarged trigger guard is integral to the forging, which looks good as well as offers additional receiver stiffness. I like long handguards, but the Recon Quadrail was not really doing it for me. Out of stock. Toss in a free bump-fire and I might consider it. While smooth and well-tuned and generally comfortable to shoot, there’s no mistaking the fact that the GII Compact Hunter is a 6.9-lb, target-crowned rifle firing .308. Plus, a profanity-free bolt catch pin system should you decide to remove and replace the perfectly functional factory unit. I just finished a 308 build and handguards are a real PIA. Replaced it with a JP compensator. With the MSR10 hunter, I can swap barrels when I shoot out the factory one. Because of this, there is no aftermarket barrel support and DPMS won’t sell you a replacement barrel. I like long handguards, but the Recon Quadrail was not really doing it for me. It was a bit over-gassed like most large AR's so I put on an adjustable gas block. Out of stock Compare. Get your rail today at:http://www.samson-mfg.com/category/308AR_DPMS_LR-G2.html Mine came with a threaded barrel, and as an added bonus wasn’t built by Remington. Well that’s interesting. Trigger: DPMS Two Stage Parts here are available to the public for self installation, but they can also be installed by our highly trained gunsmiths. Interesting. Out of both my bolt guns and my DPMS pattern 308. Until the DPMS GII gets aftermarket barrel support I won’t buy one. This lightweight (6.9 pounds) .308 is barely larger than a typical 5.56 AR-15. A good trigger, proper scope height, and the GII’s smooth, reliable function and decent accuracy help make for a good time on the range. I just took my G2 Bull out for a hundred rounds of break-in and function test. After all, one is none, right? TTAG snagged this Compact Hunter model and put it through its paces. The MEN and DAG surplus that I have is impressively accurate for surplus x51. Firearms industry seems to be making 20-30 year life span guns. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I've had the G2 Hunter for a good 3 years. I bought an 18 inch AR-10 with M-LOK free float rail for $600 from Palmetto State last month. DPMS sell’s every part of the rifle directly except the lower receiver. AR15 handguard compatibility is a big deal. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I have no idea why it's on that tight. The handling and balance are awesome especially compared to other large AR's. It just so happens that the G2 AP4 barrel nut is the same size externally as an AR15 standard barrel nut and so will work with any AR handguard that uses a … Actually, when another TTAG writer chronographed it (I gave him a box from my same order) in his 24″ barrel bolt gun, he saw an SD of 9.9 and shot significantly tighter groups. God Bless America! Of course, you’ll remember it’s actually a .308 as soon as you fire it. Still love it. I'm guessing the barrel nut is horsed on pretty tight. I just got my GII and have fired it now 10 times. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - DPMS GII Recon. instamp3,ermp3,mp3gov 320kbps Mp3 Song. All Rights Reserved. MSRP: $1,599. I wish they’d make their damn minds up but at least this time they have a reason. This is a workhorse of a gun that does exactly what it was designed to do and looks good doing it. Overall Length: 32.5″ to 36″ It shot more like 1.4 MOA. Weight: 6.9 lbs Machining, fit, and finish were all on par with or above my expectations at this price point. End-to-end, the receiver set is only a half inch longer than that of an AR-15. Agreed. On The Range * * * * DPMS 308 G2 Ejection Port Cover Issue. Out of stock ... DPMS RECON 223 16" MID-LNGTH BLK 30R DPMS Recon Semiauto 223 Rem 556NATO 16" Black Magpul MOE 4 Rail Handguard Mid-length 30Rd Front/Rear Flip Sights 60542 $957.51. Out of stock Compare. On a 16-inch barrel, this difference is amplified even further. The factory 1.05-pound heavyweight DPMS billet quadrail forend was a quality piece but not comfortable for me and way too heavy for its length. Handguard Update. I’ll stick with the tried and true SW M&P 10. In every way, it’s a very high quality rifle. Is the recons flash suppressor rock-set? and the 2nd Amendment! I do enjoy options though. My flash suppressor was not Rocksett. As AR-10s go, the size, weight, and overall ergos of the GII series is top notch. DPMS now licenses out their barrel extensions, so the aftermarket should soon catch up! Creedmoor Ammo’s 168 grain Sierra MatchKing loads hovered around one-minute, five-shot groups, but I feel this ammo-rifle combo is capable of better. On the range, all of the GII’s engineering results in a rifle that feels and handles like an AR-15 instead of an AR-10. That said, I’m sure my groups would have tightened up a bit with the additional precision afforded by the higher zoom level of my accuracy testing go-to, the SIG TANGO6 5-30×56. Lightweight and durable these offer the perfect upgrade for 3 gun shooters LE/Military or weekend enthusiasts alike. AR/LR 308 style rifles use several different barrel nut and handguard standards, depending on the make and model. Andrew discusses the new Samson Manufacturing options for the DPMS GII Platform. The barrels use a proprietary extension. They’ve developed the DPMS GII as the ultimate evolution of the .308 Modern Sporting Rifle; smaller, lighter, and more reliable than AR-10s of the past. This actually seems innovative. Standard deviations of like 30 fps won’t win any records, but the ~3.5 MOA and better (down to 1.4 MOA) groups it shot out of GII are still usable. Do they use the shortened buffer typical of DPMS rifles? How much that affects accuracy will depend a lot on the specific rifle and the range to the target. DPMS chose an undisclosed new steel alloy for the extractor — something “nearly impervious to breaking” — and replaced the short metal coil spring of old with a patent-pending elastomer extractor spring. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. This selective use of steel reinforcement enabled the size reduction at the front of the receiver and, ultimately, that AR-15 handguard compatibility. Also replaced the trigger with a Larue. Twice the muzzle energy and three times the projectile mass in a rifle zero times heavier, and it’s the shooter who soaks up that extra recoil. There are now a additional AR rifle manufacturers such as Adam Arms and Zev Technologies on board. When this rifle shoots consistent cloverleafs and/or keyholes all day then it might be worth the price. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. DPMS, purchased by Remington about a decade ago, is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 and AR-10 rifles in the world.   View our 308 compatibility guide for more details. This lightweight (6.9 pounds) .308 is barely larger than a typical 5.56 AR-15. If you have the three prong flash hider, buy an AAC flash hider removal tool and use a small impact wrench. Reliability * * * * *  Before purchasing a handguard, please make sure you are purchasing the correct one. The DPMS GII B24 308 Upper Receiver Assembly comes completely assembled and ready for installation on any compatible lower receiver. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. All parts look and feel of quality and, despite the relative light weight, the GII also feels really solid. I am very certain that if I tried to remove it by clamping the receiver, it would have broken the receiver. Dual ejectors mean less spring spring fatigue plus offer duplicity. Accuracy * * * * Samson Evo Rail System - DPMS G2 Handguard (.308) The Samson Evolution Series is the next step forward in free floating handguards. Barrel Type: 416 stainless steel, Teflon coated, 1:10 twist, target crown Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Forget the flash hider or muzzle brake, just ship it threaded 5/8-24 with a thread protector installed, please. No evidence of any sort of locktite/rocksett.The AAC flash hider tightens up on the muzzle instead of the barrel shoulder. Considering the ranges the GII Compact Hunter is likely to be shot at, the ability to quickly transition between red-dot-like zero magnification with illuminated reticle and eight times magnification with an extremely easy to use, range-finding BDC reticle all in a 16 ounce package makes a lot of sense. The bullet’s exposed lead meplat (nose) isn’t ideal for accuracy or aerodynamics, but it’s sure effective on game. While a typical AR, whether -15 or -10, has feed ramps cut into the aluminum upper receiver, the GII employs a steel insert. Otherwise, the compact size and light weight are advantages on one hand (maneuverability and “ruck factor”) and disadvantages on the other (recoil). In contrast the Savage MSR10 hunter is the same size and the barrel uses a STANDARD extension and comes with a factory adjustable gas block. Although they look like machined-from-billet receivers due to the unique, non-Mil-spec aesthetics, the GII’s upper and lower are, in fact, forged from 7075 aluminum and Type 3 anodized then Teflon coated. Out of stock ... DPMS RECON 223 16" MID-LNGTH BLK 30R DPMS Recon Semiauto 223 Rem 556NATO 16" Black Magpul MOE 4 Rail Handguard Mid-length 30Rd Front/Rear Flip Sights 60542 $957.51. The factory 1.05-pound heavyweight DPMS billet quadrail forend was a quality piece but not comfortable for me and way too heavy for its length. You had me right up to elastomer. Eyes closed, it’s an AR-15 carbine. It s a takeoff carbon fiber handguard from a dpms g2 308 hunter model as far as i know, it will only work for a dmps g2 308 upper receiver. Furthermore, they’ve integrated quite a lot of parts compatibility: the GII uses AR-15 handguards, AR-15 forward assists, AR-15 trigger geometry, the AR-15-standard optics height, AR-15 receiver pins, and standard gas tube lengths. Unfortunately for me, the Hunter models (as well as the bull barrel flavor) culminate in a bare muzzle; a target crown with no threads. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. Shoots very soft now but will almost knock people over on the next bench. The problem is that this DPMS GII uses a … Grip: Hogue overmold I suppose that’s why they also make the GII Recon, though. It may not look like anything special from the outside with its standard-looking trigger shoe, but their two stage job provides a clean, target-style trigger pull with a hunting-appropriate five pound break. Handguard Update. Mine broke loose immediately with the impact wrench and then spun right off with my fingers. Question for those who swapped handguards. The trigger, scope height, and everything else are ready to make it happen. The threading is specific to the G2 lineup and is incompatible with standard AR barrel nuts (or any AR barrel nuts, for that matter). In addition to the geometry changes, the bolt saw other, meaningful upgrades as well. Sights: none Getting down to brass tacks, I shot accuracy groups with a smattering of ammo and what I felt was an appropriate optic for the rifle, the Primary Arms 1-8x with ACSS reticle. DPMS pared down the size of the AR-10 receivers until they were as close to that of the AR-15’s as possible. I went that route because the general consensus on AR10 forums was the shortened buffer caused more wear on DPMS-patterned rifles. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It features a 16″ fluted barrel with a midlength gas system, carbon fiber free-float handguard, Hogue grip, DPMS two stage trigger, and B5 … Yes. But then it does not appear to be designed for anything but slow-fire Fudd-thumping. SXS Lightweight 18" .308 (762) M-LOK® Handguard; Thermold 30 Round Magazine for the AR-15; DPMS G2 SXT M-LOK® 15" Handguard; Pistol Accessories +2+ Mag Extension for the GLOCK G43; M&P Contour Magazine Extension; Shield Compact Magwell; Shield Carry Contour Magazine Extension; Shield Pocket Comp; Handguards. From dimensions to balance to ergonomics to heft, you’d be forgiven for thinking you’re holding a .223 in your hands. Dpms lr 308 rifle lenh free float tube with barrel nut if interested will meet face to face. Shot a whole 2 gun match last weekend with only 1 malfunction. We believe the list of manufacturers and aftermarket parts vendors will continue to grow. Caliber: .308 Again, it’s possible a 1″ spread was the best I could do with 8x zoom and that chevron-shaped reticle. Kind of limitsone’s options. A Nordic Free float tube will screw right onto the Recon barrel nut. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. The DPMS GII Hunter is a Remington product (DPMS having been brought under the Remington Outdoor Company umbrella many years ago) that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention. I do believe this is a solidly sub-MOA gun (even if I was shooting it at a minute given how I set it up), which is above-average accuracy for a 16″ .308 gas gun that can be had for a hair over $1,200. The GII line was debuted in 2015, a gas-operated AR-10-style rifle that was a full pound lighter than the original DPMS Hunter line. Compare. RWC57 Replies: 6 Views: 327 1/13/2021 8:05 AM RWC57 Opinions on adjustable gas, talk me into or out of it. Out of stock Compare. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. You have to look hard to see it but I slightly rounded the flats and egg shaped mine trying with a wrench before I bought the tool. A new bolt geometry and reduced-mass, forged, monolithic carrier allow the use of a smaller barrel extension while apparently providing “superior lockup and strength.” In turn, this barely-wider-than-a-5.56-carrier allows for a reduced receiver diameter. Midwest Gun Works Gunsmiths can offer servicing skill that your DPMS firearm deserves. It features a 16″ fluted barrel with a midlength gas system, carbon fiber free-float handguard, Hogue grip, DPMS two stage trigger, and B5 … I'd post in the GII specific forum but it is too quiet over there. Ran flawlessly and I did not have the cratered primers the earlier models had, so DPMS seems to have fixed that issue. As it was the flash hider was on tight enough to distort it prior to it breaking free. I don ’ t get past the Remington connection… up yet another variant! 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